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I don't know what is really going on in this movie, but it's great!
>>By tyrant (Thursday, 2 Jan 2003 02:19)
as a math major... i think the movie contains several mathematical inconsistencies. i hate the movie...
>>>mishamishe... (Wednesday, 5 Feb 2003 03:06)
I think it's absolute madness to think that you're doing the right thing by wasting an hour and a half watching probably one of the baddest movies ever... the cube suck, and big time!
>>By Peter (Thursday, 6 Feb 2003 20:38)
this movie is very strange but overall i really enjoyed it. Yes, there may be some things wrong with it, but I looked past its imperfections and saw one of the greatest movies of this time. The entire movie is not meant to be sciFi, but moreover, induce questions and answers about the human condition. What lengths people will go to just in order to save themselves. I found it remarkable that in the end it was the people who were primarily responsible for their fate, and not the Cube.
>>By mergerl (Tuesday, 25 Feb 2003 02:42)
I dont like the movie becuase of the directors need to kill someone with a screen door... why!?!??!
>>By MrTnmatrix (Sunday, 9 Mar 2003 21:01)
Love the movie. Great insight into the human relationships.
Who cares about the mathematical inconsistencies, its not the major focus of the movie.
Cube 2: Hypercude is about to be released, can't wait!!!
>>By Tigger (Tuesday, 11 Mar 2003 02:05)
Loved the movie too.
Thanks for the heads up on Cube 2, I'll be looking for it.
>>By Mindy (Tuesday, 11 Mar 2003 02:06)
I agree, the movie is all about human relationships and the state of the world.
>>By John (Tuesday, 11 Mar 2003 02:07)
i like the movie because of the social relationships involved. It tells us what makes us human and that there's no such thing as a better person over another. it makes us think. but i still can't get over the fact that they didn't say which sicko is responsible for putting those people in there and turning them into lab rats. ^%^%^$#3#$@#$!
>>By kristine (Thursday, 13 Mar 2003 10:11)
I must say that at first I was not too crazy about the film, but then I sat down with a friend and spent 1.5 hours discussing the archetypes of the characters and what comments the film makes about our society. Afterward, I watched the film again and realized just how great the movie was. However, I found that it is a poor choice to rave about and then show to my friends. They totally disagree with me about this film.
By the way, who's to say that anyone is who they say they are? Are those really their names? Or do they just go by them because it's easier? Hmmmm...
>>By itchytasty79 (Saturday, 22 Mar 2003 11:28)
I think this movie is sensational! Cube 2 will be at Sci-fi channell on April 5 (9 pm) for whom is in the USA.
tarcisio@uol.com.br
>>By Tarcisio (Tuesday, 25 Mar 2003 22:15)
cube isn't just about a generalised human condition but rather i think it focuses on the canadian hero and canadian survival. it's not an american film and it's not supposed to be. i think that's probably why a lot of people don't like it.. because the tragedies aren't loud and fantastic, because the hero's death is an accident, and because there's this 'herd-mind' mentality where the terror isn't in the machine but rather the terror comes when "the individual feels himself becoming an individual pulling away from the group"(Frye).
i think the most disappointing thing about this movie is it's sequel and futhermore, for the amount of time used to film cube (the first one) it was done pretty damn well even if the math is all wrong so stick that in your pipe and smoke it, 'mischamische'. how could anyone hate a movie just because the math is wrong? i almost feel bad for you.
>>By bowtox pimp (Friday, 28 Mar 2003 01:29)
Cube is awsome, and i liked cube 2 HyperCube, although it could have been much better with the storyline, and i didn't liked it with no more boobytraps that sucked, the excitement wasn't all there.
The movie, is about people how they act in a group of strangers, you think you just met someone and u totally know him, but later on you are mistaken.
It's more about also the heragie in a group, well thats the way i see it, and well my english isn;t that perfect if it was in dutch i would discuss it with you people;)....
Peace
>>By MoCroveLLie (Saturday, 5 Apr 2003 02:40)
While the math may not be perfect, the point of the movie is most definitely in its existential reflection of the human condition. It's easy to miss the first time around, but watching for a second time it's hard not to catch little comments like "There is no conspiracy. Nobody is in charge. It's a headless blunder operating under the illusion of a master plan." that make a very intriguing statement about the way the world works. Cube portrays the idea that it's not so much the world or any guiding force that directs our lives, but the actions of, and interactions between humans. The fruitless attempts of the trapped characters to discover the purpose of the Cube is a metaphor for humankind's perpetual search for the meaning behind our world. Taken as a symbol for our world, the Cube exists without meaning, and the only things that matter are the actions of those within. Furthermore, the actual motivations of each character's actions have little importance compared to the reasons that the other character's assign to them. The Cube's tension certainly adds to this air of mistrust, but is it really that different outside the Cube? Sartrian, to be sure.
>>By fierydemon (Sunday, 6 Apr 2003 03:44)
The math may not have been perfect but who cares I am a dumbass anyway so I loved it.
>>By grindscape (Monday, 7 Apr 2003 21:46)
I agree with ishytasty (my own situation was extremly similar to yours, except i discussed it with my boyfriend for like 3 hours total, and i had a dream about it, then we watched it again and talked more about it) I also think that fierydemon is the most accurate of anyone's comments on the cube. we came up with a similar theory, but apply it to the outside world. the cube becomes not a representation of teh world, but a product of chaos and the specification of jobs, no one end up with communication, and the cube just appears for no reason, a paperwork mistake. i like both ideas and i think they work together. the social implications (ie. absolute power corrupts absolutly) i beleive are there in the movie, but it is with the existential nature of the cube that i am more concerned. im interested in seeing the sequal. does it suck?
>>By pfunk (Tuesday, 8 Apr 2003 23:40)
I loved the first. Its one of my favorite movies of all time. Its not about math,but about the people. I hate it when people talk about the math ! ............o yeah i saw the second one pFunk ........and it sucks !
>>By UltraMan (Saturday, 12 Apr 2003 03:03)
An interesting aspect of the movie.
All of the characters are named after prisons: Quentin (San Quentin, California), Holloway (England), Kazan (Russia), Rennes (France), Alderson (Alderson, West Virginia), Leaven and Worth (Leavenworth, Kansas). Not only are the characters named after prisons but they reflect the prisons themselves. Example: Kazan (the mentally challenged character), in Russia is a disorganized prison. Rennes (the "mentor") was a jail that pioneered many of today's prison policies. Quentin (the detective) is known for its brutality.
>>By Booyakaa (Wednesday, 16 Apr 2003 16:20)
Hey, what rhymes with cubic anyway. and does that have anything to say about how good the movie is?
>>By rubix (Monday, 21 Apr 2003 05:16)
darkness of how far the human sole will reach to achieve what others will do to look out for number one. Just as in everyday life amoung simple minded individuals. We are all rats in a cage (or are we in a cube).
>>By acid_milk_spil (Thursday, 24 Apr 2003 22:42)
I want to watch it again...I saw it when i was like 16 or something and now I am 19...I really want to see it again but cant find a damn video store who has a copy...This is one movie that the public never really caught on to...I may just buy the damn thing.
>>By skankboyhappytown (Friday, 25 Apr 2003 23:03)
Cube was the best movie ever of all time.(PERIOD) 4 now and forever... the only thing i didnt like is that the cube didnt have proper bathrooms for sanitary purposes. But watching the retarded man peeing added a much needed comical relief. Give your ratings on cube 2.
>>By davenmike4thecube (Saturday, 26 Apr 2003 03:34)
The story of The Cube was obviously never meant to evolve into the story of Cube 2, but it has done, and if Cube 3 is ever made I hope they will design a clever enough story to relate the two. My understanding is that the first Cube was a prototype for the 4-D model of Hypercube. I thought the 4-D cube idea was interesting and original, even though it was fricking weird.
The makers of Cube 2 obviously had more of the whole story in mind than the makers of Cube 1, which can be seen from the last scene of the film where the woman gets out and is confronted by the military. She was also apparently working for them... and also seems to be willingly shot by them. This could definately make for a mysterious and exciting unwravelling of plot in the 3rd film, and I would definately like to see it.
I wish Kazan would come back though. He's my fave. "Two!" "This room is red", etc. It would have been stupid for him to be in Cube 2... but it would have been damn funny - "This cube has four dimensions... I wanna go back to the 3 dimensional cube... MMMMMM!!!" He rules... And he's not retarded, he's special!
>>By Azz (Sunday, 27 Apr 2003 23:41)
Cube is ultimately a theatrical interpretation of Existentialism. I think it's great...we're watching it in my existential lit class...after i introduced it tomy teacher. It's the best! If you don't like, you just aren't intellectual enough to appreciate it!
>>By person (Wednesday, 30 Apr 2003 21:04)
I don't think it matters what the cube is, how it got there, or why people were put in it. I think what's important is that people WERE put into it, and they weren't able to get out. They made progress only when they worked together, and greed and selfishness killed them all in the end. People of different outlooks, backgrounds, and mindsets were faced with a common challenge which was clearly within their power to overcome, and they let their differences defeat them. Sorta sounds like the current state of affairs in the world today.
>>By less Hyper, more Cube (Friday, 2 May 2003 06:13)
I thought the movie was more about the human interaction then about the math, it is a very excistential plot
in any event the math is fairly good, just ask the Math Prof who was called in to work it out...
http://www.math.ecu.edu/~pravica/
I'm still not sure that it would actualt work but it is a great concept
>>By zarlack (Monday, 5 May 2003 05:12)
Cube rocks. Cube 2: Hypercube rocks too. I think that there should definitely be a third movie. And they should make prequels too. There should be 6 all together, like Star Wars, as follows:
Cube -2: The Zeroth Dimension or Dot
Cube -1: The Oneth Dimension or Line
Cube 0: The Second Dimension or Square
Cube
Cube 2: Hypercube
Cube 3: The one with the Ewoks where they find the Holy Grail in the Old West
Imagine the possibilities . . .
I think that this could be the next Star Wars. But I really think George Lucas should make the 7th, 8th, and 9th Star Warses too. Now we're getting off topic. The guy that talked about the prison names was awesome. That is a really good point. Bravo.
Stephen Hawking should make a cameo in the third installment. Then he should get cheese-grated like the first guy that died in Cube. That would be funny.
I didn't really like the ending of Cube 2: Hypercube. It wasn't vague enough for me. It would have been cooler if the phone was red and flashing, like the Batphone in the original television series. Thwack! Also, it wasn't really hyper enough for me; it needed more cowbell.
Office Space 2: CUBEical. . . from the makers of Cube.
Publix should change its name to Cublix, and then eliminate the L. Then also take away the IX and make it an E. So I guess that is really just Cube. (Publix is a grocery store in the South. Kinda like Piggly Wiggly)
Take your car to get an oil change at Jiffy Cube.
The Trojan Man would recommend that you use some Sensual CUBEricant.
The Borg should call up and say they're pissed for the theft of their Cube idea.
Cube rhymes with boob.
Overall, these movies are amazing. I was thinking about starting a religion which worships the Cube. I heard people did that with The Matrix. I don't really think it would catch on, and I'm Presbyterian. So scratch that whole idea.
Cube fever. Catch it.
>>By Astronomicalisa (Monday, 5 May 2003 08:54)
OK... Saw Cube, liked it. Saw HyperCube...wtf...
Hypercube had the possibility of exasperating the characters beyond the threshhold established in Cube, but didn't. That was the drama of the first Cube: to exasperate, to test, to challenge these character archtypes and see how they run. The traps in Cube 1 were horrific and mechanical and primitive. The way out was possible. Cooperation between the conflicted identities and personality types seemed achievable, which is why we stayed interested. We wanted to see if our hypothesis is correct, that they could work together and escape despite the pressure of slow dehydration and exhaustion.
In Hypercube, we know what they have to do before they do. Yet Hypercube lacks drama. Yes, there is the line in the very beginning where the military commander says there was a way out of the old one and that this one isn't fair. So we know this cube will be harder. And the characters do comment on being thirsty and hungry from time to time, but never with any sense of desperation. From the get-go, we should see hysteria in even the hardest of them. No one should act like they are just killing time inside of a fun house, except for the senile old woman. Where are the vast arrays of booby traps to impede the progress of the cube-goers?
The characters are either bland, inconsistent, or unbelievable. The villian seems inconsistently paranoid. "Jerry" might have been an optimist but he should be frightened out of his wits and never would volunteer information so openly. The young kid and the girl are together eventually, but not by cirumstance. And "Sasha"?
Also, we are given the backstory in a very cumbersome and implausible way. Someone named "Alexander Trust" is mentioned by gushing young cyber chump and everyone pricks up their ears. The same is true with the Physicist and his revolutionary book. I hate it when I'm not invited to the party. In the first Cube, when someone drew upon their knowledge base, others got jealous or become suspicious. It was dangerous to volunteer information. We do not get the sense of that from Hypercube's characters, even from the villian, who is not terrifying enough to be a villain. The only interesting aspect to him is when he returns with gray hair to murder the psychiatrist and we see that he's been through hell for a lot longer than he's let on. Unfortunately, she spoonfeeds us the "..but you were only gone a second ago.." line, as if the gray hair wasn't an indication of time's passage. And we have no real indication of what his hell might have been. Certainly not the "longer than you think!" variety in Stephen King's "The Jaunt". Where is the blood on his shirt from the people he would have had to kill and eat to stay alive? He would have been a mess!
Another problem is that people are too resigned to their fates, as if the characters are all Buddhists walking their lives without any expectation. No one is upset with being trapped inside this Hypercube, except the villian with the knife, and he, not nearly enough. Where do we see the strain of hours of fruitless, thirsty, hungry searching?
"Sasha's" confession is meaningless. She says she fled for her life when she learned what they were doing with her Hypercube, but she doesn't act heroic enough in the early part, or contrite enough in the latter part, to make this assertion ring true. And if it is a lie, if she really is immoral, why doesn't she shows us? A self-preserver would never let her life be placed in danger. Someone seeking her own destruction through guilt would have led people into traps.
And the ending... I watched both endings. The second ending is better, but her execution doesn't contribute anything to the script. We know the men behind the Hypercube are bad. It would have been better to see a forked pitchfork or a tail retreating behind a curtain, recognition by the psychiatrist, and then the necessary execution.
Ah fatalism...
>>By Machismo (Saturday, 10 May 2003 00:14)
Definetely one of my favourites. The film IS about people but i think there is something more. The question of who built the Cube is not answered directly BUT i think its implied (and its not aliens :p)...Think about it...
FACT 1:noone knew how they ended up in there, Leaven and Worth were sleeping, Quentin (i dont remember what he was doing) and Holloway was eating....hmmmm they all sound quite like a heart attack or something... Suddenly they wake up in another room.(THEY DIED in the real world waking up in another????)
FACT 2:Worth designed the cube but he was told to do so by essentially noone in particular.(it sounds like a random insight, maybe induced by someone????)
FACT 3:HUMAN RELATIONSHIPS...lets face it noone is perfect, all of us can hate for any reason..
Quentin---->he turned out to be quite abusive....bad bad person...
Holloway-->she thought there was someone to blame for all the misery and pain, she kinda wanted revenge against whoever built the cube..(she wasnt that bad thought...she saved Kazan)
Rennes---->"I only go along with you cause of your boots"..or something like that....(that explains how good of a person he was)
Worth------>This one is quite complicated...He didnt like Quentin that much did he?..he did want to leave him behind to die...as humans though we should be able to forgive...noone deserves to die not even Quentin...PLUS he didnt want to live, in the end not getting out of the cube as quickly as possible before it moved..one of the greates SINS NOT APPRECIATING LIFE...SUICIDE
Leaven---->hmmmm you cant tell actually can you...BUT she did leave Quentin behind without arguing and she was being ironic all the time...not a saint :p
MAYBE not all humans are able to hate.....some are pretty pure in their feelings...
KAZAN---->Dint want to leave anyone behind, didnt hate anyone didnt argue with anyone, couldnt stand violence and people crying..(remember when he "pets"-rubs (dunno how to say it) Quentin on his head when he was crying although he had just beaten up Worth)
FACT 4: Quess who finally makes it out of the cube...KAZAN the purest of all..the one that didnt hurt anyone etc etc
FACT 5: What does he walk into when he gets out? PURE WHITE LIGHT kinda reminding us the lights of Heaven!!
FACT 6: He is wearing white clothes stained with blood of others, and he is the only one saved...the most weak as he seemed to be...
Well yes if you havent guessed where i am geting at yet....Although being an atheist i still have the christian "brain" inside me :P I think that the film implies GOD made the cube so that people themselves make their way into heaven or dont, and its entirely up to them, and how they get along, and how they choose to live, and what feelings they create etc etc!!
I havent watched Cube 2 yet but i can guess it want be about heaven and God...I m not even sure if Vincenzo Natali (director) had any of this in mind :p...but still i hate unsolved puzzles and this explanation fits well enough. The bottom line of all this being that we dont always have to fight our way out (out of all situations) by threatning and killing (Quentin), nor thinking our way out like we know it all (Leaven), nor giving up and not caring about getting out (Worth), nor rushing not thinking about consequences (Rennes), nor trying to find someone to blame (Holloway)...Sometimes we just have to be....human.... :D
By the way I am an astrophysics student and the math was ok for a film, what did you expect the Fourrier series or maybe Einstein's Summation Convention and suffix notation :D...(Leaven couldnt figure out if a number ending with 5 is prime hehehehe) THATS ALL FOLKS ( I am writting this at 4 in the morning sorry for any mistakes)
>>By BaD_SeeD (Sunday, 11 May 2003 05:54)
i thought it was a superb film, aside from whether or not it was factually correct, i mean, is that why you go see a movie, to have people work out math problems on screen? no.
i am desperate to find some audio clips from the film. anyone have any ideas??
>>By log:one (Sunday, 11 May 2003 15:25)
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