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It's not that serious for all you folks using up space just to try and understand the movie?! It's a movie! get over it! Yeah it was good when it first came out, but now, it's old, the second and the third were too drastic, but the effects were good.
The point....the main character and his girl dies in order to save the world (it's classic comic book theme), the end....

>>By harpoon_sha   (Friday, 3 Sep 2004 19:38)



Exactly. The first one, for an action film, was pretty average - the special affects and stuff brilliant for the time. But that is all it was and will ever be - an action film. There is no characterisation that makes it stand out from the rest as action films go - just the one that made the most money and had some good special effects.
If it were absolutely necessary to release a further two films, at least try and make an effort in improving the flaws of the first - like adding a few twists and for once Keanu doesn't get the girl - let some other poor sod get her. Let death get her, I'm sure he'll be fine with that.
When watching the first one I can never sit comfortably and get into the film because you are just watching it all happen in front of you, you are not feeling anything for the characters that died - like when half the cast is axed within a minute, nothing.
The storyline had a lot of potential, but as ever it was a let down and hanging around.

>>By Tchock   (Wednesday, 8 Sep 2004 22:53)



*sigh* You people sadden me. And if you think WE'RE obsessing about the movie........ha! You ain't seen nothin' 'til you mosey on over to the "Donnie Darko" discussion board. Now, those, are some truly disturbed individuals with way too much time on their hands. Go rag on them for a change.

>>By The Walrus   (Friday, 10 Sep 2004 19:00)



The Matrix was GROUND BREAKING look at some of the films that have been released after the Matrix, IE swordfish (the claymore mine explosion) and then you will see that the matrix has changed the way the films are made.

No longer are we forced to watch the screen and leave our imagination (sorry I`am crap at spelling) outside, The matrix has engaged those that only watched before, and they have been shook-up buy what they have seen. NO MORE EASY MOVIES TO WATCH.

I am glad to read that 'most' ppl understand the movies, and that they are able to explaine the facts to the simpletons out there.

GO AND READ EXPAND YOUR KNOWLEDGE

>>By Gilbertus   (Saturday, 11 Sep 2004 21:46)



The philosophy within the story is more realistic than the film make us believe.
Quite fantastic how they used names and terms out of the Bible. I see it as some confirmation of something inevitable.Quite ironic. Great movie it is.

>>By Sanvean   (Monday, 7 Feb 2005 00:41)



this film is sweet and probaly one of the best movies ever made, i have never seen a set of movie that has made me think so much and actually question my reality , this world that we live in thats kool i think. and it was about time they made another computer movie they are very rare, and they are rarely good...

>>By zeromenace   (Tuesday, 8 Feb 2005 13:48)



Listen to me, I can disagree with Tchock! :

The first one was an unmissable five-star classic. It *did* make me feel for the characters, it made me think, special effects-wise it blew me away, it was an all-round brilliant film.

The second two were nothing more than a half-assed attempt to make a whole lot more money (half-assed but it worked thanks to the idiotic masses) by making the storyline so ridiculously philosophical and complicated no one could understand it, by doubling the amount of special effects and bullet time, and by giving Lawrence Fishburne the role of 'philosophiser', ie every three scenes he would say something really deep and intellectual that really just sounded pretentious.

Another victim of unnecessary sequels.

>>By Flagg   (Tuesday, 8 Feb 2005 18:17)



yeah agree Flagg! First one pure classic and had most people thinking for months after they seen it.

But in its own right the second isnt as bad as people let on. Great special effects alot of philosophical which is kool. And the end of the movie had me thinking and thinking eg Neo being able to stop the machines in the real world had most of us thinking that maybe the real world wasnt real and it was just another part of the matrix. but frankly that would of being one messed up film....

The third on the other hand i beleive lost if way in some ways but when i think of it now it frankly couldnt of ended another way...cause from we learn in second is the Neo is that important after all and the one is just under another system of control with the help of the orcale. but neo got around that by moving away from his supposed destiny and instead of winning the war he got peace between the machines and humans which is close enough and by the end moruphus didnt beleive in the one anymore but just in Neo himself which is kool....

Also it was kool they way they left neo alive at the end so maybe in 10 years they may make another i hope and maybe make it more like the first!!!!

>>By zeromenace   (Wednesday, 9 Feb 2005 15:32)



But the best ending would have been if it had ended with the first one. I mean, who makes a classic masterpiece of a film, ends it really coolly with the hero flying into the air and a Rage Against the Machine song playing, leaving the whole audience stunned; and then ruins it with an over-complex, pretentious pair of sequels?

Well, the Wachowski brothers I guess. Such a shame.

>>By Flagg   (Wednesday, 9 Feb 2005 18:48)



I didnt like the series much i thought it was a waste of my money

>>By theli#1   (Thursday, 10 Feb 2005 02:17)



flagg i have to agree, but heres something you probaly having noticed,

The dates between when trinitys phone call is being traced and when neo at the end is making a phone call and it is traced and then he stops it, is a span of 6 months in between.

And from what they tell you in the 2nd movie, it 6 months into the future since neo became the one, so if you look at it the end of first movie is actually the ending the third. which really gets you thinking......

>>By zeromenace   (Thursday, 10 Feb 2005 11:44)



interesting, but it still would've been better with just the one film.

>>By Flagg   (Thursday, 10 Feb 2005 20:08)



but in fairiness you say that now but you know bafck then as soon as the other film was beginning to fade into movie time, you were hoping they were going to make a matrix 2 and even a three and in all fairiness they could of being worst alot worst.......

>>By zeromenace   (Monday, 14 Feb 2005 20:31)



ok i was just thinking, as i can tell the one before neo as morphus puts it " Could change what he wanted could remake the matrix as he saw fit" ok thats crap, cause what i seen in the second and even in the third neo never had that sort of power, he was faster , stronger , could fly and had some mind ability eg willing weapons to fly of the walls. but he never had the power to remake anything, the architect did as he was the creater.

Now with smith, he could copy himself and at the end he had the power to destory the matrix and spread throught into the real world and kill the machines but he never had the power to change the matrix, although how did get into the hallwall, the backdoors, he never had any keys and if that is the case how come neo couldnt open the doors and how come neo couldnt see the doors in the matrix code and use them..

so one has to really think, did smith really have the power to destory the matrix or was it another trick by the matrix to control neo into returing to the source because he choose to save trinity instead of returning to the source when he was talking to the architect....

there is so many ways of looking at these films and frankly i dont think anyone will ever figure them out, or more likely there is no answers and the 3 movies just have alot of plot holes

>>By zeromenace   (Monday, 14 Feb 2005 20:58)



I have been studying kung fu recently, and recalled the scene between Neo and Morpheus where Morpheus calls out Neo with a "come hither" hand gesture. Does anyone know any "kung fu" and the technique called "Small Circles"? Their stance at that point looks like the beginning of "Small Circles", but I haven't seen the movie in some time, and I can't remember if they really are doing any "formal" exercises or if it's all improvised.

And this isn't really related, but I'm watching "Hollywood, bollywood" right now, and I still can't believe his first girlfriend died in a "levitation accident". So weird. It's like that freak scene out of "Harold and Kumar go to White Castle" where Neil Patrick Harris is sniffing cocaine off a woman's body on the hood of a speeding car. Weird like that.

>>By sandma1half   (Friday, 9 Dec 2005 05:28)



"ok i was just thinking, as i can tell the one before neo as morphus puts it " Could change what he wanted could remake the matrix as he saw fit" ok thats crap, cause what i seen in the second and even in the third neo never had that sort of power, he was faster , stronger , could fly and had some mind ability eg willing weapons to fly of the walls. but he never had the power to remake anything, the architect did as he was the creater. "

I MUST AGREE WITH THIS BUT IF YOU THINK ABOUT "THE ONE" WAS TAUGHT TO BE SOME KIND OF GOD LIKE FIGURE SO MORPHEUS MAYBE ASSUMED WHAT A PERSON LIKE THAT COULD DO.. AND REMEMBER WHERE MORPHUS GOT HIS INFORMATION FROM THE ORCALE WHO WAS PART OF THE SYSTEM.
AND WHO KNOWS NEO WAS ONLY THE ONE FOR SIX MONTHS GIVEN TIME WHO KNOWS.....

"Now with smith, he could copy himself and at the end he had the power to destory the matrix and spread throught into the real world and kill the machines but he never had the power to change the matrix, although how did get into the hallwall, the backdoors, he never had any keys and if that is the case how come neo couldnt open the doors and how come neo couldnt see the doors in the matrix code and use them.."

so one has to really think, did smith really have the power to destory the matrix or was it another trick by the matrix to control neo into returing to the source because he choose to save trinity instead of returning to the source when he was talking to the architect....

AND AS FOR SMITH WELL HE HAS BEEN ALIVE SEEN THE BEGINNING SO HE PROBALY KNEW ALL ABOUT THE BACK DOORS BUT JUST DIDNT HAVE THE POWER TO ACCESS THEM AND AS FOR NEO WELL HE PROBALY SEEN THE CODE BUT IF YOU DONT UNDERSTAND IT YOU CANT USE IT AND REMEMBER GHOST SAID THE CODE WAS HIDEN.

SURE HOW DID SMITH KNOW HE COULD INPUT HIMSELF INTO A HUMAN BODY THAT IS A MYSTERY?????....AND IF THE MACHINES DID HAVE CONTROL THE WHOLE TIME THEY WOULDNT OF AGREED TO THE PEACE BUT FRANKLY NOW THAT YOU MENTION IT THE ARCHITECT DID SAY THAT THERE IS A LEVEL OF SURVIVAL THEY ARE WILLING TO RISK SO WHY DIDNT THEY JUST TURN OF THE MATRIX AND START A NEW... THE WORD PLOT HOLES COMES TO MIND.

I DOUT HE THE POWER TO DESTORY THE MATRIX, BUT AS FOR TRICKING NEO I DONT SO CAUSE IF THEY WANTED NEO SO BADLY THEY WOULD OF TRIED TO KILL NEO WHEN HE GOT INTO THE MACHINE CITY...

DAM PLOT HOLES I WISH THEY EXPLAIN IT ALL... IT HURTS MY HEAD THINKN ABOUT IT.

>>By zeromenace   (Wednesday, 22 Feb 2006 12:13)



i love this movie!!!!!!!!!! did you know that it is based almost entirely off of greek mythology? the oracle, 'the one,' a morpheus-like figure? its all there. and even the sign above the oracles door, 'know thyself', is an integral part of greek history

>>By ixel   (Friday, 18 May 2007 23:53)



I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that I actually enjoyed the whole trilogy. Shocking, I know. Particularly, "Reloaded." Sure, it's just an action film as others have said. But is it so bad to try and add some philosophy (even if it is rather shallow) to the mix? I don't think so.

I think the biggest flaw in the sequels is that the Wachowskis seemed to take themselves a little bit too seriously. Lighten up a bit and let Keanu smile once in a while. He seemed kind of like a machine himself. The irony.

>>By The Walrus   (Monday, 21 May 2007 01:48)



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