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woah! i hav just seen the website for the first time and i am the first to post a message in spiderman!!!!!!! i thought the movie was totally kool! great special effects and i have the dvd!
>>By nancy (Sunday, 6 Apr 2003 21:12)
This movie is intensly good! I have this DVD but never went to disc 2.
My 22-year-old brother went to disc 2 one time. But, well, that's not the naked point. wut is the point is that wut I'm tryin' to say is that WILL JJ JAMESON SHUT UP!!! He makes bad comments about Spider-Man, including in the Bugle newspapers. It would be good if Spider-Man sprayed web on his mouth to make him SHUT UP (at least he does that in the movie) !!!!!!!!! I liked the CGI in the movie, but the comment nancy made. IT WAS STUPID!
>>By Movieguy (Saturday, 10 May 2003 03:50)
i saw spiderman movie and i think that spiderman is 2 good 2 b true i also love Tobey Magwire and Kristen Dunst and i'm wating 4 spiderman2 cause i loved the movie.
>>By Habhoba (Monday, 26 May 2003 21:35)
R u saying he did it in the movie or wants him to spray his mouth in webs at the movie, cause he did sprayed webs in JJJ's mouth when Green Goblin came in.
>>By l)ark Knight (Friday, 15 Aug 2003 16:44)
THANK the lord, finally a credible comic book movie! spider man is an excellent movie and very well cast. Tobey mcguire coudn't be more perfect for the role of Peter Parker and he is gorgeous which helps!
Saw the sequel the other day and it was just as good, which is surprising in today's climate when hollywood usually messes up when it comes to the sequels!.......................so all in all both movies are very much worth seeing!
>>By Too Smart for a nickname (Sunday, 8 Aug 2004 17:04)
Does anyone ever think that the human race will ever grow tired of superheroes having arch enemies hell bent on waging war with the earth and taking it over?
Spiderman is crap. It will always be crap - just another money making scheme to fill the pockets of Mr McGuire and Ms Dunst or whatever the bloody hell her name is, not to mention the director. Please tell me I'm not the only one who thinks this. It is rather annoying when, and I quote from Mr DBC Pierre's amazing book Vernon God Little:
"What I'm starting to think is maybe only the dumb are safe in this world, the ones who roam with the herd, without thinking about every little thing. But see me? I have to think about every little fucking thing."
What is it about Spiderman that's different from the rest?
>>By Tchock (Sunday, 8 Aug 2004 21:01)
I think its the otherside of Spiderman which captivates most common, day-to-day audiences: Peter Parker - a regular tennager with problems up to his neck. He is someone whom a lot of people can sympathise and associate with. His personal struggles with family, money, direction and love reflect all our problems and in a way show that everybody experiences them: from the hardest working father of 8, to the most spoiled celebrities, to a superhero. Whats exceptional about him as opposed to someone like Batman ( i am not a comic buff or anything by the way ), is that its a lot tougher for him since he is not a billionaire businessman. Those around him have problems aswell, which annunciates his position. His best friend Harry has an evil minded father who dies, his next door love Mary-Jane has family problems and lacks comfort in her personal life ( in 2nd film ) and his aunt ( who becomes a widow ) has financial problems. He too has problems, but he has a special kind of power which distinguishes him as a type of saviour.
"With great power comes great responsiblity"
He did not choose his path, but walks it in a bid to help others. That is a sign of a saviour emerging from nowhere to defend the weak, punish the unworthy...
The "baddies" are what he is not, or any superhero for that matter. They tend to be greedy, power-crazed and knowledgeable in all the wrong things. It is morally imperative that a villain is brought down to teach an audience what is wrong and right. This has been done from epics such as Homer's Iliad and Odyssey, to Chaucer's moral Canterbury Tales, to the present day. A villian's desire to control all that is humanly possible begs for a superhuman character to ensure his failure, as a way of showing how vulnerable and susceptible to hidden evils humanity is.
The bad publicity he receives from that Jameson guy represents the way in which we knock our heroes/saviours down when we are not affected; but when he changes his stance towards the end of the second film ( my favourite ), it portrays how we all turn to God for help when we need it.
I agree with you Tchock in that the film may be just a money making scheme, but what films are made today without the aim of making money in the long run? You shouldn't dismiss a film because of its actors, they're only really there to act - it doesn't particularly matter if they do not have a comprehensive knowledge of the film's contextual themes and motifs. I quite enjoyed Toby's role, he fitted it perfectly. Also, the camera angles and special effects help create a more comic book essence than most people might realise; so the director was not exactly clueless.
I dont think its a simple matter of "superheroes having arch enemies hell bent on waging war with the earth and taking it over". Its more to do with a hero standing up to protect the innocent from the evils of certain individuals. This has come in many forms; Xena, Hercules were both born with strength and dealt with those who sought to persecute humble peasants; Batman protects a city which causes problems for itself; Superman came to this planet to escape his own planet's destruction, and was raised to protect the good here. And now Spiderman. He is the latest saviour on the big screen; he protects the values he cherishes by defeating those who threaten those who he loves; whilst overcoming his own problems - problems which we share.
That is why he is different from the rest.
>>By mathu (Sunday, 8 Aug 2004 22:16)
GOD Mathu it's JUST a crappy little teenage film that we're going to think "why the hell did I like that" in 10 years time. I think you thought about it more than the director and producer.... maybe you should relax and think about good films. Films that actually have a plot - a good plot that's not the same as all the other films of it's type.
>>By Tchock (Tuesday, 10 Aug 2004 13:55)
yyyyeh, why does the film suddenly not "actually have a plot"? Im starting to think that you havent seen it. I have not "thought about it more than the director and producer", these are just points which I have (and i'm not expecting you to have) heared other people say. Funnily enough, they were not meaninglessly attacking the "crappy little teenage film" which "will always be crap". Im beginning to think that "maybe you should relax" lol.
I dont appreciate the way you're makin me sound like some obsessed spiderman fan, when I said that I wasn't, and all i'm doing is dismantling your very pitiful remarks, along with your unimpressive, irrelevant quote and vague points :)
>>By mathu (Tuesday, 10 Aug 2004 19:16)
Well Tchock, if this film is such a crappy teenage film then why has it managed to have the biggest opening week-end of any film ever made? It is obviously therefore, not crap as people are drawn to the film for many reasons. People will go to see the special effects in the film which are very good and will happily entertain the kids. As for saying it’s a teenage film, wasn’t the comic it is based on itself aimed primarily at a younger audience? The director of Spiderman had a quite specific fan base in which to please for this movie and has done a great job in doing so as evident by its success. as for it apparently not having a plot, it is a film you can watch and enjoy without having to think too much about and just have a great time watching it. Everyone aspires to be some kind of super hero, people can experience a kind of empathic concern for the protagonist’s alter ego, peter parker as he is a pretty normal guy who is easily to relate too. I’m sure Joe average has been wishing he cud suddenly fly away and save the world and their girl (or boy) and this film offers some kind of fantasy for them to escape from the mortal constraints of the world. This film also appeals to older people for its love story between peter parker and Mary Jane and continues from the 1st movie in the series. People want to see this continuity to see how the characters have developed and what happens, there have been some famous scenes created by these too. For example, in spider man 1 where they both kiss upside down has been talked about rather a lot and has appeared in a satirical form in Shrek 2. If mathu has thought about this film too much, it must be commendable that an action movie has allowed him to do so; he can take it on that level, while it can also be taken on the shallow level of an action packed film. I really enjoyed the film but the only problem I had with it was the villain wasn’t evil enough; the actor was just too nice.
>>By encef (Tuesday, 10 Aug 2004 19:53)
Crap films make a lot of money because the appeal to the wider audience. It is a little known fact that the world in general is thick.
>>By Tchock (Sunday, 22 Aug 2004 14:47)
Spiderman is great! I studied it for my Media Studies course in college and i totally agree with mathu about the comic book effects and saviour theme... Films like the Hulk, Batman, Catwoman haven't retained the comic book essence like Spiderman has done, and the actors in Spiderman were more suited for their roles rather than just sticking in George Clooney or Halle Berry for their profiles rather than acting abilities.
"Crap films make a lot of money" ? Crap films would not make a lot of money; and people who insist that the world in general is thick are generally outsiders :P
>>By Wiglaf (Sunday, 22 Aug 2004 15:50)
Tchock you need to get over whatever issues you have with hollywood movies! i think it's clear from this discussion group that nobody agrees with you! spider man is a good movie with a good plot as is the sequal. i think it's clear from Daredevil that people dont automatically love super hero movies. And as for all of us bein "sheep" followin the herd..............you said it yourself it's just a crappy little movie so why do u care so much? why not let people have their own opinions on it, you certainly have.
>>By Too Smart for a nickname (Sunday, 22 Aug 2004 16:39)
The word "discussion", Mr Too Smart for a nickname, indicates that both opinions are required for the subject in question. Hence why I have put forward my hypothesis on the film, the same way you and all the others have done, albeit a negative approach to the Hollywood film.
>>By Tchock (Wednesday, 8 Sep 2004 22:37)
i love spiderman, the effects, the storyline, the actors, the bad guy, the characters, everything about it is just brilliant. i cant imagine any reason to not like it.
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>>By Tegan11 (Wednesday, 17 Nov 2004 07:58)
k,in my opinion spiderman sucks...its laim...it has nothing interesting in it...just special effects and bad actors
>>By greenapple (Wednesday, 17 Nov 2004 12:55)
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