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matrix is one of the coolest stuff ive eva seen

>>By cool   (Saturday, 1 Mar 2003 15:13)



Its got cool graphics

>>By melinie   (Monday, 10 Mar 2003 23:19)



cool effects....lame story.

>>By jen   (Sunday, 16 Mar 2003 00:48)



This is a toooooo cool film to have this lame comments

C'mon this is a totally revolutionary film and it will change the movies as we have seen it till now

ps: Keanu Reeves is a Hottie

>>By Sung Mi   (Thursday, 20 Mar 2003 21:12)



The Matrix Revalotions is comming out and if you want a few pitchers just E-Mail me at humhum_9@hotmail.com

P.S. this is the year of the MATRIX

>>By Realy cool guy   (Sunday, 6 Apr 2003 09:37)



The Matrix Is in a three words revolutionary film evolution. The story was complex and often was hard to understand . None the less the stroy was still cool . The cast set the mood perfect. You really felt like they were on a ship running from machines. Above all were the stunts and special effects. They were as near to perfect as you can get without reaching total perfection.

Two thumb s up from me !!

>>By Movie Buff X   (Tuesday, 6 May 2003 04:32)



Matrix rocks all I love it and Keanu Reeves ;-)

>>By Cloudfish   (Sunday, 18 May 2003 15:56)



so what's up with Agent (ex-agent ?) smith ?
Is he a virus now or what ?

>>By turbonate   (Wednesday, 21 May 2003 22:18)



So, is Neo and Zion inhabitants actually in another matrix themselves? Is that why it was stated that Zion was destroyed 6 times, and Neo had six versions? Is that why those in the Matrix seemed to know what Neo was going to do?

Rick S.

>>By Rick Bo   (Tuesday, 27 May 2003 19:06)



those in the matrix seem to know what neo is going to do because he is the one. he is supposed to free everyone from the matrix and let them be alive in the real. to turbonate - smith is not a virus, more like a copying program, all he does is copy himself and try to get kill his arch-enemy, neo. and the whole thing at the end when neo zaps the machines in teh real, is because if u remember from "the matrix" when neo takes his free your mind jump and falls into the ground, morpheos says" your mind makes it real"... thats my theory at least of how he can do matrix shit in the real. & the survivor is one of the agent smiths that got into the real thru the phone connection exit thing.. i dont know why he didnt die, i suppose because he can talk with the machines and they know he is on their side. i dunno. i hear the animatrix shows a lot of stuff about reloaded ( for instance the super annoying hyper kid that loves neo) anyways. what do other ppl think?

>>By ken   (Wednesday, 28 May 2003 02:17)



I think we have to get mroe people posting.

I think there might be a mirror of Neo. Neo could be the one in the matrix...while the survivor is the one in the real world. Neo could stop the machines in the matrix while the survivor can stop the machines in the real world. I believe they are linked somehow. That is why the directer chose to show them at the end next to eachother. When the survivor got hurt...his powers got transfered to neo...thats why he could stop the sentinels. That could also be the reason the survivor was triging to kill neo...to get his powers in the matrix... thats my theory..they theory of there being two matrixes is a good one too....

>>By Kelvin   (Wednesday, 28 May 2003 08:24)



Well firstly I think that there were far too many fight scenes and not enough Story! and secondly, Keanu, you've been acting now for at least 15 years!, surly there should be some improvement.

I think that what the creator (chief programmer) was trying to explain to Neo was that human choice is an integral part of the Matrix, and Ďthe Oneí is just a by Ė product of this human choice. Zion is then also an essential part of this human choice and has been aloud to exist, or even invented by the machines to provide this ability. This is why the creator explains that Zion has been destroyed 6 times before. There have been 6 versions of the Matrix, and each time the same anomaly arose (the One) and each time his choice resulted in the fall of Zion. I think that the machines have been around for thousands of years, not just one hundred as morphous suggests. The Oracles job is to direct Neoís choices and manipulate the outcome. However, this time it appears that Neo has brought his powers into the real? Iím not quite sure how, has anyone got any theories on this?

>>By Hogroast   (Thursday, 29 May 2003 10:16)



Zion is part of the Matrix. When they are in Zion they think they are out of the Matrix, but really they are within a program within the Matrix.

That is why Neo was able to stop the squiddies allegedly outside the Matrix.

Or, Neo has figured out how to remotely access the matrix.

However, the first theory does explain how agent smith was able to make it into Zion when he copied his program into the guy on the operating table at the end of reloaded.

>>By Beckham   (Friday, 30 May 2003 04:08)



Neo isn't human at all, he is a self aware, artificially intelligent computer virus.

>>By Haggis   (Friday, 30 May 2003 04:35)



I think that Zion being part of the Matrix does make a lot of sence, and Neo being a computer virus is an interesteing theori, but it does seem like a bit of a cop-out as far as the plot goes.

>>By Hogroast   (Friday, 30 May 2003 10:56)



The Merovingian can program food to make people feel certain things. I think he gave the original red pill to Morpheus to give to Neo, and the story of both movies so far has been about how this pill made Neo see the world differently.

I also believe that Zion is in the Matrix, but the world where Mr. Smith is from and Neo can fly is actually the real world.

I can fly like Neo if I eat enough beans.

>>By sparky   (Friday, 30 May 2003 16:49)



Zion is not inside The Matrix, Zion was destroyed and rebuilt again because of the choices of the previouse "One"'s. It was destroyed by the machines because the other "One"'s didn't beleive they could stop it. It was rebuilt because there were some people left, who were chosen by the "one" to rebuild human society and thus zion. Neo was able to stop the squiddies because he was predicted to "bring the destruction of the machines" notice machines, not agents, not matrix, machines. Weather the other "one"'s had this power is left untold. The unconciouse guy (i forget his name) was "infected" by Agent Smith, meaning, his mind was taken over by Smith, like a parasite takeing over a host. I won't go into how or why. That guy is definitly not a "one" or anything special, my theory on why he was cutting himself was A) To feel pain for real or B) His blood somehow infects others(but this is doubtfull).

The Oracle hasn't really mislead or said anything that has been wrong, from the begining morpheus said "try not to think of it in terms of right and wrong" she says what the person needs to hear.

The Merovingian most probly didn't have anything to do with anything up untill now. I read somewhere else though that he could have been a previouse "one" based on some things that were said, but then there are other things that disprove that theory. Most likely, he is just a rogue program. Think of what The Oracle can do, just because she can see the future doesn't mean shes a "one". Also, the Keymaker died after serving his purpose, alot of rogue programs (the Merovingian, the Oracle, Persephone) haven't seemed to die yet, leaving me to wonder if they might have another purpose, or maybe they just haven't gotten shot yet.

>>By Alias   (Saturday, 31 May 2003 14:17)



I've read the postings and I like to see what people have to say. But, I believe that the key element to the movies' plot is the conversation Neo has with "The Architect". (Those who have not seen the movie, don't really have any business here in the first place, but if you don't want it spoiled, don't read on.)

The Architect says a number of things. Most of which people will have no interest with or will understand watching it for the first time. But I have watched the movie 3 times now, and there are patches of vital information that I caught on the 2nd time, and more so on the 3rd time I watched it.
Among the first things he tells Neo, is that there has been more than one matrix. Five, previous to Neo, matrixes to be exact. The first two matrix designs were failures due to the way the Architect designed it. This makes sense because in the first movie, when the agents are interrogating Morpheus, Agent Smith was telling him that the first matrix was designed to be a perfect world. People would not accept the program though, and thousands of crops were lost. Morpheus probably did not remember this dialogue or simply was not concentrating being as drugged up as he was.
The Architect continues to tell Neo about the purpose of "the one", and how the one is supposed to return to "the source", pick a certain number of individuals (23 people I believe), rebuild Zion, and restart the matrix. At this point, Neo figures that either no one has bothered to tell him the truth, or just simply no one knows at all. If a select few people at Zion knew, why wouldn't they tell everyone? So you have to assume that Neo is the only one who knows the truth at that moment in the movie. However, couldn't they locate who was the one before Neo? In the first movie, Morpheus mentions that there was once a man born inside the matrix who could change what he wanted in the matrix, and that he passed away. I think that this is "the one" preceeding Neo. Given the truth, I speculate that that one thought that it was hopeless to tell anyone the truth figuring that there was no way to escape the matrix's design and the destruction of Zion. Much like the others.
However, the Architect also states that this is a general program with the other "ones" to be emotionally attached to the rest of the human race, but Neo's case is more specific being in love with Trinity. This is something I think the Architect did not expect. So, basically Neo is faced with the decision to either do what his predicessors did and go to the source like he's supposed to, or go back into the matrix in attempt to rescue Trinity and obliterate the existence of the human race. But, Neo did what the others did not choose, which is why the next movie is going to be so big (and why it's called "Revolutions") The others chose to rebuild Zion, but Neo has hope that he can end everything by choosing the other way.

*whew* Well, heheheheheh, those are my thoughts so far. Let me know what you think. Thank you for your time to read this. :)

P.S. The movie just flat out rocks. *thumbs up*

>>By Tijasc   (Wednesday, 4 Jun 2003 23:37)



First of all . . . Letís get it right . . . Neo may be the messiah, but Trinity is the Creator. God is called a tri-union (Holy Trinity) being . . . Father, son, and Holy Spirit. Therefore, Neo can not be the son, Jesus, if Trinity is all three. To prove my point. If you watch the first movie over again, pay attention when Neo says Jesus or God and Trinity is around . . .

She always responded by saying yes or answering his question . . . therefore admitting that she is those names. In other religions including some Christians, they believe that God is a Woman because she is a creator . . . That is why when Neo makes the comment . . . I thought that you were a man (hearing how Trinity was a great hacker), and she replies . . . Most people do . . . Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

In the first movie, she ministers to Neo in spirit. In the second, she dies, and rises again. It goes deeper than that. I really have to go into the 5 convents (Adam, Noah, Moses, Abraham, and David) and explain how God tried to use them as a means to save men. . But they all chose to do something else in disobedience. They chose the Matrix (the world), not Trinity (God). This is evident with the discussion with the Architect. I would have to go into how Jesus went into hell to get the Keys from Satan (Merovingian) to set the captives free Ephesians 4:09 and Revelations 1:18. Or do I have time to explain how the world is not comprised of things we can see or feel but by the words of God, Hebrew 11:4.

My theory is that Neo is a virus that has taken a mind of his own, created by Trinity. That can explain the bond between the two of them. The movie could really be about how a virus is awaken and becomes stronger to take down the all powerful network, the Matrix. Why else would each movie come on as if you are traveling inside wires . . . Also Zion is a part of the Matrix . . . I could be wrong, but itís leaning that way. Also if you pay attention when they visit Merovingian, the number 101 appears on the wall. In decimal, 101 is 5. Therefore Merovingian is the fifth person the Architect spoke of. 101 is also the apartment number of Neo in the first movie. Which now brings up the discussion if 101 means 5, meaning the 5th creating the 6th, or does 101 means the beginning of a lesson, like English 101 . . . hmmmmmmmmmmm.

>>By I got it . . . I think . . . .   (Thursday, 5 Jun 2003 01:17)



The insert by Tijasc is right on . . . Great points . . .

>>By I got it . . . I think   (Thursday, 5 Jun 2003 01:24)



Just a correction, she says "Most guys do." not "Most people do.", if you read one of The Matrix scripts, an earlier draft, shows instead of Neo searching on his own he is inside a chat room discussing what The Matrix is, one of the users, a girl, asks if Trinity is really a woman. So the point about people not believing god is a woman is still a good one, but that line might have just been more of a point out of how most guys think that most great people are male and aren't open the possibility that women do great things also. I personaly think there may be some religious representations, the name Merovingian is of Bible or Religious origins, but even more names come from Greek Mythology, Niobe, Persephone, Morpheus, etc. The great thing about The Matrix is that it is an amalgamation of different beliefs, theorys, mythology, movie and story styles, and alot of other stuff thrown in.

If "the real world" and Zion are part of another matrix that no one knows of yet, the basic concept would be a rip off of The Thirteenth Floor which had the concept of realities within realities also Existenz(or however you spell it), which did a game within in a game within a game, within maybe a game? So it would make a main plot in The Matrix terrible un-original, which is why I hope that Zion isn't another Matrix.

I think The Architect is more representative of god, Trinity could be, but The Architect is basicly the creator, however, is The Architect a program? Or is it a machine represented by a program? Maybe he said and I didn't catch it. And if the original "The One" could do anything, maybe he/she left behind a part of themselves somewhere within The Matrix left to be seen, or maybe seen already. The Merovingian could be a copy left behind of one of "The One"s, or it could be Trinity, a program who took a host like Agent Smith, theres too many posibilities to say what actualy is or isn't about this movie, just what has been, there really weren't any large clues in the first Matrix to figure out what happened in Reloaded.

Unpredictability is another thing that makes it great.

One more quick thing, I think The Kid is going or atleast i'm hopeing he is going, to be a major developing character. I like the character although he is slightly anoying. I have a theory that he could be another "The One" but thats a wild and far off theory, but crazier things have happened. If you watch The Animatrix and watch Kids Story, Trinity says "I didn't know self-sustainment was possible" or something like that, its either sustainment or replication, someone correct me on this. And The Kid keeps saying Neo saved him, and Neo keeps telling him (in The Animatrix as well as Reloaded) that he saved himself. So theres something somewhat special about that character.

>>By Alias   (Thursday, 12 Jun 2003 23:52)



So the movie was great to watch, but did anyone really understand what the heck they were talking about? The scene with Neo meeting the "Creator" was too much info to take in. After the first couple of lines all I heard was "Blah, blah, blah, blah blah blah..." Even the second time I saw it.

>>By AAcoolguy   (Sunday, 29 Jun 2003 20:04)



Reverse the roles. Those in Zion are Machines. Sentinels are controlled by humans. The city above zion? 01's City of Machines. Emp during the war brought the machines to a loss where as the humans programmed them to believe they had won. Smith and the other agents? Previous "the Ones". As smith said. "Its happening just as before" "Well not exactly" Thats all for now im hungry. =)

>>By Roleb   (Tuesday, 15 Jul 2003 22:25)



Crud!! I almost forgot. To help along with my post remember Neo Doing the EMP from finger thing. Then he goes into coma. Well he's a machine. Everytime you see an EMP on a ship, the next sceen could be hours later but you would never know. Whatever the outcome of part 3 is I hope its just good. I mean say Neo and all were human. The war ends and they win. Ok great ending with Neo and Trinity holding hands under a dark sky with nothing but wasteland as far as you could see. Yea right. But if my theory is right maybe they can find a way to mingle with the human population and escape the war. Who knows.

>>By Roleb   (Tuesday, 15 Jul 2003 22:30)



If you're like me and you just can't get enough of the Matrix, check out TBS Superstation from Nov. 2 through Nov. 4. They'll be showing the original Matrix all three nights with a behind the scenes look at the trilogy including never before seen clips from Matrix Revolutions.

15 days and counting. Every beginning has an end.

>>By FullTiVo   (Tuesday, 21 Oct 2003 17:54)



I just joined the site and think that alot of these theories are both interestin and valid. Especially all the biblical references by I got it........... I think, I also believe these movies have a very biblical theory behind them. What I'm tryin to figure out is how does the "Matrix" get new babies to thrive off of? If you have a baby in the Matrix do you have a baby in real life or are the machines secretly stealing babies from Zion. I don't believe at all that Neo is some kind of virus or however it was put otherwise why would his body need to get unplugged from the Matrix in the first movie. I agree with the theory that he now has the power in the "real world" because he believes in his powers so fully that his mind has made them real. I also am not sure was there definetely 5 previous "ones"? Because the first 2 Matrixes failed becaue of fundamental design flaws not because of an anomaly. That is all I have to say right now let me know what all yall think
>>By C-mac (Sunday Oct. 26, 2003)

>>By C-mac   (Sunday, 26 Oct 2003 23:03)



Mmmm....Read "Sophie's World." Yea, ok, its a book- but it has soooo much to do with the Matrix! Both pose questions concerned with the questions- "who are we?" "Where are we?" "What is real?" etc. The matrix's whole structure as a film isnt built on the idea of a war between man and machine....thats secondary. The main theme within the movie(s) is about a guy trying to understand more about the reality he exists in and ultimately, discover the truth about WHO he is. Its a great movie to watch- (the fight scenes, special effects, gripping story line, ect.) but if you wana gain a better and new appreciation for this film then I suggest reading "Sophie's World," as it does the same as the Matrix- posing philosophical questions in a v. interesting fictional storyline, but explores the WHOLE of philosophical thought . End Result? Why do I mention this?....Matrix is a fantastic film, but if you want it to mean even more to you, you ought to read this book! ok? :-)

>>By jupitor   (Monday, 27 Oct 2003 00:57)



No one's really touched on the Neo's new control "outside" the Matrix yet so I will. When I was watching the first Matrix I realized that Neo only rescue's Morpheus because he goes against what the Oracle (a machine) tells him. Computers are binary, in dealing with them you have two options: one or zero. Neo is able to defeat the system by creating third options which they cannot comprehend and therefore cannot fight (the end of the 1st movie).
But on the flipside when he excepts the Architect's binary choice (Zion vs. Trinity) I think he sucks himself and the rest of the world deeper into the Matrix and therefore is able to stop the squiddies outside. What do you guys think of my theory?

>>By Priss   (Sunday, 2 Nov 2003 22:08)



I hate to be so blunt, but i think you are talking out of your arse.

Neo, made a choice. Neo died. Morpheus lived. Evidently you haven't picked up on this because Neo was ressurrected by Trinity, yet he still died.

>>By Jack_is_hot_12   (Saturday, 8 Nov 2003 16:41)



I would have to say that Matrix the first one is by far the best just because of the fact that it was ground breaking and we had never witnessed special effects like that. I found that Matrix reloaded was way to philosophical and the third one was okay. There were som real crappy one liners in the third and seconed sequels and some really bad acting.

Keanu Reeves is not that great of an actor yet he manages to pull it off.

>>By kudos   (Monday, 10 Nov 2003 02:10)



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