So, good or bad?
>>By Will.C (Wednesday, 22 Oct 2003 20:30)
i thought that this movie sucked!! i saw it with my friends and all the girls hated it. i kept leaving for fake bathroom breaks just to get away from it!
>>By damn people lay off GC (Thursday, 23 Oct 2003 04:13)
I think this movie obfuscates. Else maybe I'm not smart enough to understand what's going on.
I think Reloaded is not as fun the second time round because the magic, the concept and the mystery of the matrix has been lost. Neo has become too powerful, he can do anything he wants in there (e.g. killing 1000 Mr Smiths) so there's no real struggle against adversity.
>>By ftad (Friday, 24 Oct 2003 04:25)
jesus. did we have to see neo's ass? i barfed everything i have ever eaten when that happened, and they had to close th county. the national gaurd had to clean up my vomit. there was so much it almost took out downtown.
we all could have died. it's this shitty movies fault.
>>By Metal Immortal (Saturday, 25 Oct 2003 01:07)
I think you guys are being way too hard on this film ... you have to remember its essentially a bridge from one movie to another ... There's no way it could be a self-contained entity in the way the original was ... Neither of the sequels could be. If you need a good example of a fairly poor movie acting as a bridge between two pretty good ones, look at the Back to the Future trilogy. Part II was a mishmash mess compared with I and III. I don't think we can bring up the original Star Wars trilogy here because Empire Strikes Back was the best of the three (fortunately, George Lucas wasn't directing it ...).
Speaking of Star Wars ... I've heard rumors that Steven Speilberg may be taking over the helm for episodes 7-9. How cool would that be??? At least George Lucas isn't directing!! HA!!
Actually, I hope he surprises us with his next effort. From what I understand, its going to be low on effects and high on darkness and dread. Kickass!!! I just hope George has the emotional depth to pull it off (he hasn't in the past).
>>By william (Saturday, 25 Oct 2003 20:38)
i agree with william. This film kiked ass in my opinion. Yes ftad, you are not smart enough to understand this movie if you dont understand that Neo is "The One." Hence, he can do pretty much whatever he wants. Hell, if you could fly and do half the shit he could do you wouldnt be bitching. This movie kiked ass (especially when u see it on I-Max) and i cant wait for Revolutions to come out so it can kik just as much ass.
>>By Your_Master (Sunday, 26 Oct 2003 04:33)
I thought we found out in Matrix 1 that Neo was "The One." What I was complaining about was the fact that he's Superman with no Kryptonite- from what I remember.
>>By ftad (Monday, 27 Oct 2003 06:10)
Yes we did find out in Matrix 1 that Neo is "The One"..good job you were paying attention 2 points for you. Neo is not perfect if this is what your implying. He can be shot or whatever he can just sorta see everything in slo-mo as its happing to him, for lack of a better definition. Take for instance the scene where he is fighting the 1000 Smith's he does get hit several times. So yes, he does have "kryptonite" its just no one can seem to use it on him.
>>By Your_Master (Wednesday, 29 Oct 2003 04:18)
Your_Master, he got hit but did he get seriously hurt? If noone can use "kryptonite" on him it's uninteresting to me. So can you see where I'm coming from now?
Btw my Superman references is the fact he can now literally fly around at will like when he escaped the 1000 Smiths, which is a little too much power for my liking, even if it makes logical sense to do so in an artificial matrix. Even Luke Skywalker could only leap so far with The Force :). Neo doesn't suffer, therefore he elicits no sympathy/empathy from me.
Anyway I guess I can't fully judge this sequel until I fully understand what all the philosophical ramblings were about e.g. from the architect (this is what I meant before by "Else maybe I'm not smart enough to understand what's going on" ... I wasn't saying I didn't understand Neo was "The One"). I imagine this is a trilogy that requires watching a few times over- either that or it all makes sense in Part 3. Still, I understood pretty much most of what went on in Matrix 1; I don't know why Part 2 had to be so cryptic.
p.s. I think some people have used "The Matrix" thread to discuss Revolutions
Anyone know if the Animatrix is directly related to the movies? I loved the Animatrix and thought it added a lot more value to the 'history and philosophy of the matrix', than Revolutions did.
I heard there was a spoiler about Part 3 out. I haven't read that yet either. Nor do I plan to. I like watching movies without having seen the previews.
>>By ftad (Wednesday, 29 Oct 2003 16:30)
Hm correction when I said "Revolutions" above, I meant "Reloaded"
>>By ftad (Wednesday, 29 Oct 2003 16:33)
I had hoped this would be a more philosophical discussion board. Maybe I can start it and put an end to trash talking. The basic idea I got from the architect scene is that what made Neo different from the other "One's" is that he was in love. Were he not in love, history would have repeated itself. Also, I felt the end of reloaded made a significant turn where Neo finally accepts the responsibility for thinking for himself. He had always followed directions, and finally he is taking the initiative (i.e. choosing the door to the left, taking on the centinels). There are so many open ends to be closed up, I know, but I would like to hear what you all think about what we have been given. Not simply whether the movie kicked ass or sucked.
>>By wlubake (Thursday, 30 Oct 2003 20:04)
wlubake, if I knew what was going on I would be discussing all the philosophy in Reloaded but I didn't. I need to go watch it again sometime. Too much for me to take in on one sitting.
As I mentioned "The Matrix" (1) discussion board has more philosophical analysis of Reloaded it seems (e.g. re the architect), than in here.
>>By ftad (Friday, 31 Oct 2003 06:58)
matrix is a good film if u are just looking at all the fight scenes
and all the danm explosions
>>By mouldy_teacup (Monday, 3 Nov 2003 10:13)
Alright,now to put in my two cents
The Matrix was a fairly good movie,and when I heard of a sequel coming out,I thought it would be pretty good.
I stand corrected.
Now for all you Christian Symbolism nerds out there about to flame me for this,realize this is only MY opinion.Like all movie sequels have a tendency to do,the Matrix Reloaded was boring.I mean, as if the poor plot was bad enough for me,we had to see Keanu Reeves's ass.And as if THAT wasnt enough,it was RIGHT after a titty scene,they try to get you into a bone and BAM-Keanu Reeves's pasty pale ass.The fight scenes and the chase were cool,but they were the only thing that kept me from dozing off or puking my guts out.
My Rating: Train Wreck
CLOSE THE F*CKING DOOR!
>>By Grausig (Friday, 5 Dec 2003 00:15)
oh yeah and....Keanu looked like a damn poop chute pusher running around in that "hey look at me,im an intestinal intruder" trench coat.
>>By Grausig (Friday, 5 Dec 2003 00:17)
why was he flying there?that was awful! he looked just like harry potter!!!!!!
>>By madgirl-him (Saturday, 6 Dec 2003 23:04)
"Neo doesn't suffer, therefore he elicits no sympathy/empathy from me."
He does suffer, just not in the second movie.
I didn't like this one as much as the first and last, but for me it's still the Matrix. And that means I still obsess over it. ;)
>>By MaxX (Friday, 12 Dec 2003 18:29)
I thought the first had the best plot.
Second had the best fight scenes.
The whole movie (all 3) fit together perfectly.
>>By hXc bill (Friday, 12 Dec 2003 20:01)
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>>By madgirl-him (Friday, 12 Dec 2003 21:35)
Now that was a really graet and sexy movie!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>By badgirl (Thursday, 29 Jan 2004 19:17)
wlubake and rest i guess;)
wlubake,i like your idea of movie and it gave me a little understanding of everything in the end,because when that old architect started talking i couldn't really understand what was he trying to say since i don't speak perfectly english and i was missing many words.
anyway,can anyone explain to me who was that guy that was trying to stab someone in the begginning of and was lying on the bed in the end of the movie?If explanation
for this question is in Matrix Revolution please,don't answer.
>>By LiveForChange (Sunday, 15 Aug 2004 06:56)
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