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Discussion: Kill Bill Lets see you explain the Matrix trilogy by typing it into this little box?!! If it was such a simple plot, you could do it... Keanu admits he doesn't get it, and he is NEO!! I am sorry that you can't comprehend cinema speak, what I was trying to say, was that I loved Kill Bill and I was pointing out the genre's he was borrowing from.. Get it? >>By Diabolik My only beef...if a movie requires a sequel like Star Wars, The Matrix, or The Lord of The Rings, please give me at least a since of ending. A sequel is Book 2 not Chapter 2. I got up to go to the bathroom after Lucy Lu dies and when I came back the movie was over. Let a sequel be request not a requirement. I paid good money for my ticket! >>By franksinatra74 ABSOLUTE LOAD OF BOLLOCKS !!! First I would like to say what I like about Tarantino. Here is a guy who loves to make movies for himself. If other people like it along the the way then that's a bonus. A passionate martial arts film nut doing a pastiche of many kung fu classics. After being spoilt by over indulgent fight sequences from the last Matrix film , Kill Bill offered nothing particularly new. Unless you like the B movie esque blood splatterings. No decent plot. Style over substance. It was like watching someone play a sideways scrolling arcade 'Beat-em-up'. Tons of puny cannon fodder with end of level Bosses, gradually increasing in difficulty. The only thing that make this film at all reedemable is the casting. Uma Thurman is just excellent to watch. But I'm not entirely sure if was for her character or the actress. A big disappointment. >>By Trankmast Okay Diobolik. Did you see me ever try to type the whole meaning of the trilogy into this little box? I don't think you did. Maybe I don't care as much as you and your fellow Matrix cultist brothers do. You see? About Mr. Keanu... I don't think that guy even understood the plot of his movie the Replacements. He's dumber than a rock. Finally... I'm sorry you are arrogent enough to think i can't comprehend this "cinamatic acheivment". Watching a sweaty naked man with plugs in his back is really an accomplishment. I just didn't understand it. There. Your ass is on a golden plate. Eat it all before dessert you fucker. >>By Metal Immortal of Valhalla I saw it about two hours ago, and I already want to see it again! Though, honestly, the battle scenes are a bit too long for me. (And I was complaining about that in Matrix 2... here they MAKE the whole movie! ^-^) Tarantino Rocks! >>By goulvench " Style over substance." Yup, Kill Bill is all style. There is a weak and simple plot, there are one-dimensional characters who are all prety much the same, there is almost no diologue, and there are only a few actors in it who are even required to act. That is not the point. It is style over substance because this movie is one of the most stylish ever made. If you approach the movie from the point of view that Tarentino did EVERYTHING deliberately, then you will see his genius. Even the bits that are not good eg. the plot, he deliberately did like that so they would not interfere with what he was trying to do. It is so incredably stylish. Right from the start when you think you hear a woman orgasming at it turns out to be pain. The you get the chapter and scene headings. Don't even get me started on the sound track and its use as part of (not background to) the movie. Pulp Fiction has everything Kill Bill doesn't - plot, characters, diologue, great acting so he can do it when he wishes to. >>By Wintermute revenge with a cause,sensible gore.nice ass.tuff chix. >>By arfarfarf Pulp Fiction was a movie to remember. It, in my opinion, was the closest humans have ever come to God. Just the previews for Kill Bill were enough to tell me that Tarantino had lost his touch. At my feet, the dying words of Tarantino. Never more shall there be a way to fly on wings as divinity and movies of wisdom fade away. Before this movie, we were on the edge of paradise. >>By Montu - Sekhmet um, excuse me, 'kill bill' has no plot?? let me remind everyone that 'kill bill' was done as one film and was split into vols. 1 and 2 after everything was in the can once tarantino realized that a) the entire film was too bloody long anyway, and b) especially with that kind of length it was a lot of bloodspatter to ask any normal human being to sit through all at once. it indeed has a plot, albeit a simple one: revenge. if you don't yet get it, i imagine all will be made clear in vol. 2. imagine walking out of, say, 'pulp fiction' halfway through and trying to tease out the overall plot of the film. oh. wait. i'm forgetting myself. 'pulp fiction' didn't HAVE A FUCKING PLOT and it DIDN'T MATTER. because it was beautiful just for what it was. so to those who absolutely insist on having a strong plot to 'bring it all together' so you don't go into cognitive overload, please realize that art may not always have clearcut boundaries and that that may not always be a bad thing. 'kill bill' is a beautiful, _intentional_, seamless homage to its many elements (as already mentioned by diabolik) and yet manages to simultaneously be more than the sum of its parts. genius? yeah, pretty much. and please, people, above all, don't forget that 'kill bill' is a comedy. >>By incongruity Ok, the second part (not sequel, but continuation of the movie) comes out on Feb. 20 on the east coast, anyone else heard different? >>By Moonknight03 i like...film is Ok, but i like india and MASH_KI_DAAL >>By Nickname?huh_babies serious people if anyone knows when the continuation is comin out please let me know thatks much appriciated >>By Nickname?huh_babies This movie is highly amusing. I love the blood. Definitely stylish. Most stylish movie I have seen lately. I didnt' know what to expect. Volume 2 is in theatres now. I can't wait to see it. >>By CÆT lots and lots of action and blood, a good movie >>By BloodRayne Well said incongruity. Finally, a voice of reason on this site! >>By Tiny E Kill BiIl is a great movie that has many influences, spaghetti westerns and hong kong movies, saying it has no plot is senseless it has the plot of revenge a woman who was and still is a killer seeking vengence on her peers and done with style and panashe.Tarantino has a knack of fitting obcsure music to the most bloody scenes and making it work, the first track in the film " Bang Bang" by Nancy Sinatra was originally done by Cher but it works so well as does the animated story of o ren ishi , hats off to a stylish and talented director Kill Bill 2 here i come. Anyone who likes this sort of film should check out the Akira Kurosawa his japanese samurai movies all starring the superb Toshiro Mifune are amazing, here are a few SEVEN SAMURAI YOJIMBO THE HIDDEN FORTRESS which George Lucas borrowed the plot for star wars THRONE OF BLOOD RED BEARD Hope you enjoy these films >>By bertie Kill Bill is a great and very disturbing movie, usually im fine with the blood and guts its just thoughs low limb shots that disturb me. especailly when she cutts the nurses tendin and cuts off everyones foot in Tokyo >>By Billy Pilgrim A good movie but not great. There's better samurai sword choreography on The Last Samurai and many other martial arts classics. In response to an earlier post -- this movie is nothing like A Clockwork Orange IMO. And Clockwork is much much better. >>By ftad I can't believe that I just wasted part of my life reading all these posts... >>By POPPYCOCK! Kill Bill is a revolutionary movie. His camera language is amazing. Tarantino brings to us a new form of directing films, of handle images, this is the new component. The plot, characters, rythm and others are secondary but fun and well made. Pulp fiction is still his masterpiece but Kill Bill is good as Reservoir dogs. >>By Meliadus I'd like someone to tell me what entertainment value they get out of seeing hundreds of people being hacked to death, just for the sake of it. This is not Tarantinos best film by far. The extremely thin 'plot' is just an excuse for gratuitous and pointless comicbook style violence. Basically this film is just an insult to peoples intelligence. Now here's a better plot: A huge gathering of Tarantino fans gather in a cinema to see his latest blood fest film. All the exit doors are locked and before the non existant film starts a large gang of sword swinging orientals proceed to hack their way through the now horrified audience...poetic justice or audience participation- the latest Tarantino thing! Seriously, I though the film was ugly, revolting and degrading, making light of hideous acts of violence just to shock people. I enjoyed much more The Last Samuri and Cypher. The Last Samuri was quite violent, but at least there was a point and a story line. >>By martian2 Pile of crap, what more can i say. >>By stevieUK1974 im sorry to the people that like it. it wasnt the best movie ever but people ar allowed their opinions. just because you didnt like it doesnt mean you have to rant about it it in here. the blood spurting wasnt realistic but the plot is a revenge for a woman who believes everything she loved was taken for her. that is a pretty good plotline... >>By DR_Rem the first part was to stevieUK1974... not to those who love it... >>By DR_Rem i havent seen the second yet but omg for the first amazing outstanding truly a materpiece >>By giggles KB v.2... the best part (only good part of the whole movie?) was when she was getting training with that bearded white guy. Very amusing and captures the spirit of old martial arts sensei-student stuff >>By ftad this is your life, and it's ending one minute at a time. >>By nOel_x3 I'm sorry many people can't understand why Kill Bill 1 & 2 are great films. The key has been mentioned here several times: it was all intentional; Tarantino WANTED to make this film. If you go into a cinema expecting a reworking of Pulp Fiction then you deserve whatever you get. Not that Pulp Fiction was bad, but Tarantino doesn't work for you, and you can't hold him back. He'll make whatever films he wants. I can't honestly believe that people think the man is so dumb he doesn't realise that his film is unrealistic and revolves around violence. When you see a woman get on a plane, we're talking about public transport, with a katana on the seat next to her in plain view, you don't expect a realistic film. Lighten up. Personally I think the Kill Bill films are a triumph. Every scene provoked an emotion in me, and simple and cliched as the plot was, little as Thurman spoke throughout the whole thing, I really felt for the characters. And obviously the fight scenes were sensational. Bit of violence never hurt anyone... so to speak. >>By Flagg Oh and about the Matrix. It was a great films with two completely pointless cash-in sequels, but that's going off subject. Just let me say if you want a really hard-to-explain story, watch something by David Lynch. >>By Flagg it was just brutal!!! i loved it:))))) >>By Eli_Molko
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